
For Duran Duran keyboardist Nick Rhodes, Pop Trash is anything but waste. The band has nearly 20 years of hits under its belt but this record, Rhodes said he feels, is Duran Durans best. Hes frustrated, however, by the slow response to Pop Trash. This time around radio has been a tough medium.
Rhodes talked with Christina Fuoco of liveDaily sister site detroit.citysearch.com about the new album, his side project with guitarist Warren Cuccurullo and writing songs.
LiveDaily: What is it that makes it your favorite record?
Nick Rhodes: Well, I think sometimes you just hit on things that you really understand or realize that youve got something balanced right. Rio was one of them. The "wedding album" (Duran Duran) was one of them and, for me, this one certainly. Its just a lot of really strong songs on it.
How is it working with Hollywood?
I dont know. Its too early to tell. Its slow. I would have rather hoped that it had a little more power behind it. But well see. I think radio is really very difficult for a lot of artists right now because of the way that pop and alternative radio is gone. Its difficult. We sort of fall between them in a way. But well see. Early days
Whats your favorite song on the record?
Hmmm. Varies actually, because sometimes its Pop Trash Movie, sometimes its Playing With Uranium, sometimes its Mars Meets Venus. I dont know. Its one of those records where it takes a good few listens to get into the nuances of each one of them, which Im really pleased with because those are the ones that usually last longer.
I saw you perform on the Today show in the spring. Tell me about that.
That was quite fun. It was a shame because there was a big storm that morning, so I think it would have been great if it was nice, bright and sunny. But they were great. They were so together there. It was a pleasure doing a TV show where they know exactly what theyre doing--often they can be a bit of a nightmare. But they really had it completely down. They were great. Everything was on time. The sound was good.
This is the first album in which John Taylor did not participate. Was the recording process, in turn, different?
He was on a couple of tracks on Medazzaland. Or several tracks, I should say. I dont remember. To be honest, it really wasnt recorded any differently than the last few albums. Thank You was the one that was recorded differently because that was recorded all over the place. The "wedding album," and "Medazzaland and Pop Trash were all recorded pretty much in London and then taken on to a bigger studio for drums and additional overdubs and final vocals.
How long did it take to record the album?
Well, over an 18-month period. Its probably around the same as we usually take. That includes mixing and probably a lot of the rhythm work as well. We do things in a sort of backward way because we always record drums last. Dont know how we got into that habit because we always used to start with them. But it just gives us that little bit more flexibility. We always record to a rhythm track. The last thing that goes on there is the drums. Its just a funny way around. Most musicians would say, Why on earth would they do that? Its just something that we stumbled across by accident one day when we were doing the "wedding album," and we just stuck to it. Instead of playing to the drum track, you get all the other little bits right first. You get the vocal perfect. Its easy to put the drums on. Youre not just locked into something somehow.
How does the songwriting process work with Duran Duran?
Sometimes Ill have a complete lyric in advance. Sometimes Warren will have an almost complete piece of music and well just tweak it a bit and then write the lyrics. Sometimes Simon (LeBon, singer) will start singing something and well jam around until we find all the parts. It varies to be honest. You cant afford to give yourself too many limitations with songwriting because its just one of those things where sometimes you have a magical day, other times you can slave away for a week and really get nothin. You just got to know when you do got it.
Are you recording any music outside of Duran Duran?
Warren and I have actually made an album under the name of TV Mania that we completed three years ago now. Were planning to put it out at the beginning of next year. We were gonna put it out this year but weve been just so tied up with the Duran thing. So were gonna put it out at the beginning of next year. Were going to do it through the Internet, probably through our own label, through Lo-Fi, I would imagine. Im really interested in trying something that way. I do think its the future. The big labels are good for some things, but I dont theyd be good for a project like this because its much more avant garde. Its called Bored with Prozac and the Internet.
You say its more avant garde than Duran Duran. Tell me more.
Well, I think Duran Duran is, you know, always on the sort of--I dont know--slightly askew from pop and slightly askew from alternative. This thing is more like alternative dance stuff, I suppose. But it doesnt have rapping on it. It doesnt really fit anywhere. Its almost its own little genre. Thats always been the problem with anything Ive done. Somehow it fits everywhere but it doesnt fit anywhere. This is definitely one of those.
Is Simon LeBon doing anything outside of Duran Duran?
Not at the moment. He has a little TV project in England for a cable thing. Im not sure exactly how it all works. Im sure youll know soon enough.