Insane Clown Posse [ tickets ] claims it doesn't care if it wins over any new fans with its two latest albums, "Bizzar" and "Bizaar." ICP's Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J say they recorded the albums specifically for their fans--and that's it.

"It's not for anybody but Juggalos [ICP fans]," Shaggy 2 Dope said. "We didn't set out to expand our fan base this time around. We set out with this record just to satisfy the Juggalos and that's it. If somebody don't like the record, then f--- you. You don't need to. We have enough Juggalos.

"Me and J both live in mansions--not by Donald Trump's standards, but mansions. Everybody we grew up with is set for life. I mean, how much do you f-----' need?"

Seemingly, however, the band does want to make sure that its existing Juggalos pay for their ICP music. Before the albums' Halloween release, the duo kept the music from the label and media to thwart any attempts at piracy.

"No one even at Island [Records] heard our record until [mid-October]. Nobody heard it besides us. The last record that we put out, 'Jeckyl Brothers,' was f-----' heard by everybody three months before the record came out. It was all over the Internet, all over everywhere."

The music on "Bizzar" and "Bizaar" is a mix of disco, hip-hop and rock, and even includes a cover of the '80s hit "Let's Go All the Way" recorded with the Detroit-area rock band Perpetual Hype Engine.

"It's funny because, to be honest, I hate the original '80s song," Shaggy 2 Dope said. "But J loves it. It was his idea to do it, and we did it. But neither of us liked it, so we had a live band, Perpetual Hype Engine, do the music for it. It worked a lot better. I ended up loving the song after that."

The two albums are sold separately. Shaggy 2 Dope explained that "basically, it's a sneak tactic to get out of our contract with Island Records. F--- Island. They're all snakes. Our complete plan is not to release the sixth joker card on a major label."

Since its founding, ICP has contended that by the time the sixth album--or, joker card--is released, the world will come to an end.

"We're going to release it on our own label, Psychopathic Records. Psychopathic is the only label that exactly knows how to put out ICP [records]. Basically to do this double record, we ain't trying to snake [or, cheat] the Juggalo. That's why we didn't package them together."

After "Bizzar" and "Bizaar," ICP is contracted to do two more records for Island, according to Shaggy.

"We have to think of more tactics. That's just something we've been planning on doing for a year and a half."

The last year or so has been a turbulent one for ICP. Besides rattling the cages of the music industry, ICP found itself in the center of Eminem [ tickets ]'s legal battles. The multi-Grammy nominee allegedly pulled a gun on Douglas Dail, an ICP affiliate, in the parking lot of a Royal Oak, Mich., car audio store last June.

Eminem, whose real name is Marshall Mathers, was charged carrying a concealed weapon and brandishing a firearm in public. His pre-trial exam is set for April 9 at Oakland County Circuit Court in Pontiac, Mich., and, if there is enough evidence, a trial will begin in April 13 at the same location.

Shaggy didn't mince words when he talked about the controversial rapper.

"The reason why he likes to diss us: he grew up listening to our s---. What we say hurts his feelings so bad, to see his heroes dissing him so bad."

In the meantime, however, Shaggy is concentrating on planning the second Juggalo Convention (which will be announced on Friday, Feb. 2, on ICP's official website), on touring, and on topping "Bizzar" and "Bizaar."

"The record is, in my opinion, our most devastating work to date. ... We're not going to push ourselves down anybody's throats. Juggalos are down with the clowns for life and we're going to keep it that way."